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"I've used the Grey Force pad for 1st step when a boat has medium/light oxidation & scratches on a force rotation or a DA. I also like using as a 2nd step follow up to wool and rotary. After 1st step - cutting hard on boats with heavy oxidation I use the Grey pad with medium cut compound to get what the 1st left behind. It will also help remove swirls and holograms left from the rotary machine. I always make sure I have at least 1 or 2 of these pads on hand. They are very stiff which makes the cut with less effort."